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Rating Your Love (for Darker than Black, and others)

I think I spent more time than necessary figuring out just what rating I’d give Darker than Black. Having been fascinated with it from start to end, and having found the coherence and thematic focus of the series to be AMA~ZING!, on top of the brilliant storytelling (guess I can proudly say, “yes! I can see what you’re talking about, Owen/Hige/0rion&Guff (or their spirit)/other DtB fans!”) and the excellent portrayal of the characters (Without doubt, Hei is <333. To my new spunky shiny sexy black laptop, I dub thee 'Hei'!) — each of whom finally found their purpose in life, the ‘truth’ they truly believe in, what they stand for, and their place in society, I felt compelled to give it a 10. Until I finally got to the end of the series, and started thinking whether I should be more “objective” in my rating.

Darker than Black is far from perfect, as with all other animes. There were a LOT left to be revealed by the end of the series, some episodes felt a little out of place (or that they didn’t really push the plot forward), and the “ending” turned out to be pretty rushed. But there were also a LOT of things going for it — the characters were dynamic(and I mean REALLY), character revelation and development here and there, and they happen even if you might not be aware of it (I’m looking at you, Yin)! They’re not stereotypical characters; they exist to break their own stereotypes. And although some episodes didn’t contribute to “plot development”, it didn’t stray off from the intended theme of the series, or in 0rion’s words, the “philosophy” of Darker than Black. Episodes 7-8, for example, seemed to me like one of the most filler-like episodes, but once viewed in the light of ‘Identity’, or ‘What constitutes the essence of our being — is it our body, soul, or uhm, smell?’, it all makes sense. Kindly read Owen’s post on this for the intricate details, I can’t give justice to this just yet.

It’s the first time I’ve seen an anime with this kind of coherence. But a brief disclaimer: It’s not until lately that I found my tastes ‘maturing’. Take that as you want.


is that a lively kitty I see, or are you just happy to see me?

What I’m basically going at with this is that, the aforementioned Great Things about Darker than Black makes the ‘lack of proper ending’ nothing else but a trivial matter. And while I can see where the dissenters are coming from, I felt the series had an epic win ending as well. To quote Guff:

“I loved how the series gave an honest illustration of the epilogue. The contractors still exist and some still abuse their power. But power is neutral, neither inherently good nor wicked. It is people who manipulate it that causes violence and conflict. In short, the show ended brilliantly – the world still isn’t perfect, but there remains a glimmer of hope that shines like the distant stars.”

I heartily concur.

Karura once wrote about her disappointment with Darker than Black, and 0rion only had this to say:

“While I understand where you’re coming from with your criticisms, and while I agree that the main plot was decidedly hurried, I feel that Darker than Black still stands pretty well simply on the strength of the individual story arcs.

Rather than being concerned with fleshing out the grand overarching plot, the writers used that as a backdrop to tell a series of brilliantly executed character stories. Certainly the vagueness of the setting and plot mechanisms smacks of a story where even the writers aren’t sure what’s supposed to happen, but I feel that the unhurried pace was also one of the greatest strengths of the series. It gave the smaller thematic stories breathing room, where in other circumstances they might have been buried under the momentum of the main plot.

In essense, Darker than Black is best appreciated one episode at a time, without regard for those larger elements. Much like Mushishi, each episode creates and nurtures a theme, and manages to draw something profound out of it in the space of 22 minutes – not an easy feat. Once you view it in that light, the entire show makes a lot more sense and becomes more enjoyable. :)”

I couldn’t have said it any better. And yes, this is the life; if you can’t find the words to convey what you want, quote the words of other people who says just the right words for you. So effin’ brilliantly too.


See, even they don’t know the answer.

Also, as opposed to people who found themselves caring less for the characters as the series went on, I found myself caring less and less for the plot and more for the characters. To Hell with Hell’s Gate or Heaven’s Gate. What does that say of me? I’ll leave that to you.

So in the end, after overthinking about ratings and feeling a bit “lost”, I went with my instincts, and did what I think was right. A 10 it is.

In the process, I found myself mulling over “10″, what it means to me, and/or the basis I have for giving that Grandiose Grade. I know there’s been a whole lot of discussion regarding Axiology before, the proper methodology behind evaluating animes, evaluating our feelings (enjoyment or otherwise) vis-a-vis ‘objectivity’, how Quality is not directly proportional to enjoyment and vice versa. Incoherent stream of thoughts follows, read at your own risk!

Hypothetically speaking, all animes can be enjoyed if viewed in the “right” light (or in the wrong light, that would work too), the right “frame of mind” (with or without the accompanying experiences necessary), or the right “lens”; we may not notice it, but enjoying something is a subconscious decision we make [all too often] — which entails either a conscious or subconscious decision to want to go through the said “lens”. Ever wondered how mecha fagn ghostlightning could enjoy something like Skip Beat or Nana? Another case in point: I know people can enjoy Queen’s Blade for what it’s worth (or otherwise), may it be for fapping, appreciating the beauty of squirting boobs as a form of ART, etc., but at this point in time, my mind is set to “I wouldn’t touch this with a 10-foot pole” — partially because (a) I don’t want to ruin my image (what will watching Queen’s Blade say of me?), (b) it’s not relevant to my interests if there are sexy hawt men instead, we might just be able to negotiate that, (c) I find other animes to be far worth my time at the moment, and (d) I’m not really in the mood to enjoy it for the wrong reasons.


Chibi Amber is so moee D: I want a Doll version, literally.

Now if all animes can be enjoyed by people, that simply means that we all have the right to give that Highly Coveted “10″ Score (or any other score for that matter) and others can’t give a damn about it, right? “Hey, this is all personal!” But here’s my take on this, bear with me please. The “this is my 10, and I don’t give a damn about what you think about it” mindset, is tantamount to saying “My 10 is greater than your 10″. So you not only disregard other people’s opinions, but you also elitistly look at your own as the Absolute 10. My beef with this is: how would you know exactly what “10″ is, or how would you ascertain that this “10″ is the “Real 10″ (or how you really want your 10 to be), if you don’t explore other people’s take on it? Can’t we humble ourselves and see where other people are coming from with their point of views, and be enlightened in the process? Our “10″ will be all the more ‘rich’ (for the lack of a better word) that way.

At this day and age, I still wonder how the heck Owen ever gave Itazura na Kiss a 10 in MAL, but well, it’s “personal” (though I’d like to see some bit of explanation and expounding — showing others’ opinions rather than yours is not enough to defend that 10! And, just to see what exactly went wrong with my watching, not just “Why so serious HURR DURR DURR, lighten up yo!”) But I digress.

There’s the concept of identity through the Looking Glass Self, the kind of mindset I subscribe to. Getting to know other people’s take in what I watch, where they’re coming from as they evaluate their animes, only serves to let me get to know myself (or my tastes) better. And in the end, realizing that 10 != PERFECT. Interpretation of the said “10″ varies from person to person (we are unique individuals after all), and for me it means having appreciated an anime for what its worth, not necessarily because the said anime is the PINNACLE OF ACHIEVEMENT (quoting OGT on this) and that EVERYONE SHOULD WATCH IT, but having enjoyed it because we saw it in the “right light”, and saw how great it is (the QUALITY) because of that — a personal love affair. 10 = having Fallen in Love with the said anime. Falling in love here is tantamount to seeing both the Good and Bad sides about it, but ultimately accepting that the flaws of the series simply constitute it as a total package. That’s how true love is supposed to be, right? Say cheese!

In the wise words of soon-to-be-otou-san ghostlightning:

“Perfection does not need your love. It is whole and complete. It is never any less perfect without your love. Nothing, nothing is missing.

Ahh, don’t you just love the sound of that? :)

Though of course, it’s never easy to see animes in the “right lens”, and what that “right lens” is (or what ‘quality’ is) needs a lot to be contended with. I mean if IKnight hasn’t found a way to directly perceive quality, or even to prove once and for all that it exists…! I know Ryan is onto something with his introduction of the melative Relative Rating System, but I have yet to fully grasp it or try my hand on it T__T /lazymode

Slowly but surely, I think I’m starting to find what “10″ means to me. It’s a continuous process, I know. My standards change, the way I perceive things change; the “lens” I viewed anime with during my younger years is far different than the lens I have now, which is why at times, I ask myself, how come I can no longer share with the joy of my baka anikis as they watch Yu-Gi-Oh? I thought of this as a sign of being ‘jaded’, but OGT boosted up my morale x9000 during one convo we had as he viewed this in the light of being “knowledgeable about my taste”, rather than “jaded”. And I like that. For one, I can actually see what they find so enjoyable about it, I just choose not to partake in it. To anyone who thinks I’m losing out on half of my life by not watching Yu-Gi-Oh, I challenge you! To a duel!

There’s a certain sense of joy I get out of being able to understand other people’s sentiments, when I’m able to ‘connect’ with them, especially. “Oh, so this is what thought to be great about ” (in that wide-eyed sense of wonder fangirl mode), or even a disappointed “Oh, so this is what was talking about, I see…” (but enlightened nonetheless) “Getting” where another person is coming brings about… enlightenment on a whole new level. And it allows you to connect with more people that way :)

In closing, I would just like to say: I don’t expect you to enjoy animes (or enjoy Darker than Black) the way I do, but I do hope you’ll see where I’m coming from.

…How do you rate your [love for] animes?

P.S. I am terribly sorry for losing control over this post’s word length.

P.P.S. Not incorporating coburn’s excellent post on the similar subject matter just made this post a ‘poor man’s version’ of his *facepalm*

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Discussion

19 comments for “Rating Your Love (for Darker than Black, and others)”

  1. I agree with you, what i also like in this anime, is the slice of life moments.

    Posted by Fiona | May 16, 2009, 4:13 am
  2. Darker Than Black is a seriously good series. I didn’t realized the title of this post until now, LOL! Way to encompass a possible final thought on a series and blend the meta issue of rating! /applauds

    You defend it so well, the rating ^_~

    Thoughts:
    My 10 is greater than your 10
    The truth of this matter is that it is untrue for 99% of all these fixed-rating sites. Why is that? Simply because they equate 10=10=10, while many are beginning to truly see how untrue that is… in essence, your 10 is not equivalent to anyone elses, so this statement it is the real truth, but it is does not evaluate true within the system (the rating I advocate changes that).

    Yea, grasping relative ratings. There are many ways to think about this, lately I’ve been phrasing it as a “dynamic rating system” in which users basically create their own rating levels, which breaks the confinement of trying to place an item between 9 and 10:

    If the the newly rated title goes above 9, it becomes a 10. All 10s become 11s… there’s nothing wrong with that, and there is no manually reassigning all 10s to 11s.. it just happens.

    Another view is that it’s basically a top 10 list, but it is not restricted to 10 levels.

    Posted by Ryan A | May 16, 2009, 4:46 am
  3. “I found myself caring less and less for the plot and more for the characters. To Hell with Hell’s Gate or Heaven’s Gate. What does that say of me? I’ll leave that to you.”

    I think that means that you’re able to relate to them as people. When we relate to other human beings, we don’t normally think “Do I approve of this person’s life story?” Instead we think about how it might feel to be them and experience what they are going through.

    A rating is always subjective. Acknowledging this doesn’t make it useless, but it does inform the reader as to the limitations of its usefulness.

    You speak of a 10 as “falling in love” but even then, love is a nebulous process. Love can take a long time to realize, or it can be an abrupt and terminal descent. My own review of Darker than Black praised its execution, although it had more to do with cinematography than character development. Even so, if you’re talking about love, sometimes it’s the little things that make us realize we love someone or something.

    Posted by moritheil | May 16, 2009, 4:54 am
  4. [the trackbacks to WRL were of a scraper site's http://www.anime.us/rating-your-love-for-darker-than-black-and-others to think I almost commented there (who's this charming new blogger who knows us so well? ay si jen lang pala orz)]

    Very interesting post. You may want to read this too [->]

    It’s very much relevant to your post I believe, though coburn was specifically writing about looking for shows to give a 10 to.

    I don’t think rating anime is so much a ‘right,’ that can be earned or something like that. People are subjective to be sure, and the ratings we give on MAL I think serve as icebreakers in opening discussions more than anything.

    Posted by ghostlightning | May 16, 2009, 4:54 am
  5. I haven’t finished Darker than Black (your posts about it make me think I should probably give it another shot), but I have to say that I really like the idea of a 10 = anime that I’ve fallen in love with. I know people who won’t even give their favorite series a 10/10 because “it’s not perfect;” I think that’s silly, because there’s no such thing as a series that is “perfect.” I tend to think of my ratings for anime as measuring a kind of balance between how much I like a series (or maybe how satisfying it was to me) and how good I think it is “objectively” (in quotes because perfect objectivity is pretty much impossible) — these are the things that add up to my love for an anime :XO:

    Posted by Senna | May 16, 2009, 4:59 am
  6. Blabbed about DtB in your last post so I’ll just comment on the ‘10 rating’ part.

    I’m the type that’s reluctant to give out 10s sadly cos I’m surprisingly overconscious of the fact that what I enjoy doesn’t necessarily equal (and most of the time doesn’t at all) what a good majority of people enjoy – or even if it did, there’s definitely another bunch of people out there who’d disagree anyhow. So yea, to avoid the whole “my 10 is better than your 10″ rigmarole I just don’t give 10s in the first place, pacifist wuss that I am ::-*:

    But would the same argument apply to my 9s then? (recursive problem coming into light…) So it turns out everything in the previous paragraph is a whole lot of hypocritical rubbish :x Where everyone else would give a 10 to a series they ‘loved/thought was the pinnacle of anime/etc’ I would just give a 9 to signify the same notion :P So where everyone has a bunch of 10 scoring titles, I have 9s :P

    Yet, there is ONE title I gave a 10 without much thought – quite ironic since many people consider it a show that encourages thought (and NO, it’s not AniYoko nor ToshoSensou! *gasps*). I’d say that at the end of the day, when there are series I loved to bits while still conscious that someone out there will think I’m crazy for that, I give it my coveted ‘9′. But should there ever come a series that fulfilled that condition PLUS made me feel that I could recommend it to just about anyone with actual pride – even if it may not be everyone’s cup of tea but I’d feel you’re retarded if you ever claimed it “sucked”- it gets that seldom seen 10 of mine :up:

    Posted by issa-sa | May 16, 2009, 11:08 pm
  7. @Ryan: Thanks ^__^ and yeah, the ratings we give are not absolute. Thinking that a mere numerical value can represent our sentiments over a show is naive, and “cheapens” how we perceive it IMO. I think I can now see where you’re going at with this ‘relativity theory’ :D
    @moritheil: ahh yes, the power of empathy. I like your take on love and how it all comes down to the little things. It might not be an intended reference to the strengths of DtB, but it sure says a lot about it.

    @ghostlightning: Thank you for pointing me out to coburn’s excellent post. I fail for not having that post in mind when I wrote this, SIGH.

    @Senna: it’s always difficult to see things from an objective light, because we don’t really know what that “ground 0″ of objectivity is. We just get to have a grasp of an ‘approximate objective point’ as we get exposed to the good, bad, and middle-ground of the stuff we consume. Having 10 represent the animes we ‘fell in love’ in is one of the most ’subjectively objective’ way we can represent our sentiment for a show, I guess :)
    @issa-sa: if a 9 == 10 for you, then so be it! <33 XD

    Posted by usagijen | May 17, 2009, 12:51 am
  8. Well, I haven’t finished this anime yet but I heard that there is going to be a 2nd season :-) So maybe things will be solved in the end.

    Posted by Tomochii-Chan | May 18, 2009, 2:28 am
  9. You know, ever since I hopped on the MAL bandwagon a whileback, I’ve struggled to figure out how to score anime, and I would have to agree. While my thought process hasn’t been as well drawn out as you, I would totally agree with the 10 equals love of the anime. Like Senna, I’d score based on a balance of my ‘objective’ view of quality, production value and execution, and a subjective enjoyment, though I find these days I am leaning more and more towards simple enjoyment.

    That said, I do wonder sometimes if my score/perception is affected sometimes by hype (I’m looking at you, fangirl Usagi!), but I guess that might be partially related to wanting to connect with those who enjoy the same things as you.

    Posted by KayDat | May 18, 2009, 2:22 pm
  10. @Tomochii-Chan: let’s all hope so! but don’t use that as an excuse not to finish the 1st season! :P

    @KayDat: My thought process?! I still have a lot to learn too D: You guys make me learn a lot from this, so I think it’s a give-and-take! :)

    My apologies if my delusional fangirling has skewed your perceptions in any way :P I honestly don’t think the score I give is ‘objective’ most of the time, but having people reaffirm the LOVE for the show makes the said score sooo valid (objective or not ^^)

    Posted by usagijen | May 21, 2009, 1:38 am
  11. Wow, I think that’s the most Guff and I have been linked / quoted in any one article since we started blogging. Quite the flatterer, aren’t you?

    I’m glad you enjoyed it though. It sounds like you know my thoughts on the series pretty well already, so I’m kind of left without any good comment material here other than to say, good post, good read. :)

    Posted by 0rion | May 24, 2009, 8:21 pm
  12. @0rion: omg you’re alive! Haruhi brought you back I see XD And thank you for leaving your epic Darker than Black trail ^^

    Posted by usagijen | May 24, 2009, 11:15 pm
  13. Amber reminds me of C.C. from Code Geass. o.O
    Well, maybe I’m just too much into CG, and that’s why. ;)

    Posted by Tori | June 2, 2009, 3:00 am
  14. gay sucks so much

    Posted by tony | June 4, 2009, 11:21 am
  15. I find it interesting that you’re the first person to have ever mentioned “gay” and “sucks” here. Freudian slip perhaps? Are your inner longings finally seeing the light of day?

    Posted by usagijen | June 4, 2009, 3:57 pm

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