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		<title>By: usagijen</title>
		<link>http://scrumptious.animeblogger.net/2009/09/05/dealing-with-death/comment-page-1/#comment-43080</link>
		<dc:creator>usagijen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>actually, I just got to talk to him recently. not really heart-to-heart talk, I don&#039;t see that happening any time soon. But casual talk, possibly a good start :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>actually, I just got to talk to him recently. not really heart-to-heart talk, I don&#8217;t see that happening any time soon. But casual talk, possibly a good start <img src='http://scrumptious.animeblogger.net/wp-content/plugins/smilies-themer/pau/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: moritheil</title>
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		<dc:creator>moritheil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 14:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think, in a sense, he&#039;s dead to you already, if you&#039;re not communicating meaningfully.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think, in a sense, he&#8217;s dead to you already, if you&#8217;re not communicating meaningfully.</p>
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		<title>By: Shiro, Long Tail's</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shiro, Long Tail's</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 23:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t be too hard on yourself for not replying.  It&#039;s shocking news and is in no small way easy to deal with.  What is important is reaching out to them.  Something like, &quot;If you ever want to talk about it, my door is always open,&quot; means much more than any reflexive condolences. 

&quot;Some people have the gift of empathy, I know I don’t, especially not with Real People.&quot;
I wouldn&#039;t call it a gift, but that&#039;s neither here nor there.  During my brief study of counseling psychology one of the points that is frequently argued over in the community is whether or not empathy can be learned.  While you may not have felt anything over your coworkers loss, the fact that you took it upon yourself to discover introspectively what life would be like in her shoes shows a great deal of compassion on your part and is what some would argue &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; learned empathy.  

&quot;we SHOULD go through the phase of mourning — it’s painful, but simply shows that we cared enough for that certain someone to feel a sense of loss over his/her death.&quot;

You&#039;re absolutely right, everything has it&#039;s place.  Mourning let&#039;s us work though our grief so that we may face tomorrow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t be too hard on yourself for not replying.  It&#8217;s shocking news and is in no small way easy to deal with.  What is important is reaching out to them.  Something like, &#8220;If you ever want to talk about it, my door is always open,&#8221; means much more than any reflexive condolences. </p>
<p>&#8220;Some people have the gift of empathy, I know I don’t, especially not with Real People.&#8221;<br />
I wouldn&#8217;t call it a gift, but that&#8217;s neither here nor there.  During my brief study of counseling psychology one of the points that is frequently argued over in the community is whether or not empathy can be learned.  While you may not have felt anything over your coworkers loss, the fact that you took it upon yourself to discover introspectively what life would be like in her shoes shows a great deal of compassion on your part and is what some would argue <em>is</em> learned empathy.  </p>
<p>&#8220;we SHOULD go through the phase of mourning — it’s painful, but simply shows that we cared enough for that certain someone to feel a sense of loss over his/her death.&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re absolutely right, everything has it&#8217;s place.  Mourning let&#8217;s us work though our grief so that we may face tomorrow.</p>
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		<title>By: usagijen</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kitsune: in the end, I wasn&#039;t able to tell her anything, and it seems a tad bit too late if I tell her now, weeks has passed since :(

turning grief into growth, I like that :D it&#039;s just silly how we can succumb to pessimism when it comes to things like this, and we won&#039;t snap out of it until someone finally gives us a hard slap. Thank you for the words of wisdom, will certainly keep them in mind, though I&#039;d probably need someone to remind me of them once I&#039;m finally in the said grieving situation, lest I forget :)

@hazy: *hugs* actions certainly speak louder in cases like this. at the end of the day, words are just... words, and what really matters is your sincerity, or just your very presence, to show that &#039;you&#039;re there for them in this time of grief&#039;.

If a person is remembered even after his/her death (good memories of course), that goes to show that he/she has made an impact in the life of that person. And if one&#039;s death will serve as a constant reminder for you to be your best, live life to the fullest, I&#039;m sure the very person will be honored to have been an inspiration too :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kitsune: in the end, I wasn&#8217;t able to tell her anything, and it seems a tad bit too late if I tell her now, weeks has passed since <img src='http://scrumptious.animeblogger.net/wp-content/plugins/smilies-themer/pau/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>turning grief into growth, I like that <img src='http://scrumptious.animeblogger.net/wp-content/plugins/smilies-themer/pau/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> it&#8217;s just silly how we can succumb to pessimism when it comes to things like this, and we won&#8217;t snap out of it until someone finally gives us a hard slap. Thank you for the words of wisdom, will certainly keep them in mind, though I&#8217;d probably need someone to remind me of them once I&#8217;m finally in the said grieving situation, lest I forget <img src='http://scrumptious.animeblogger.net/wp-content/plugins/smilies-themer/pau/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@hazy: *hugs* actions certainly speak louder in cases like this. at the end of the day, words are just&#8230; words, and what really matters is your sincerity, or just your very presence, to show that &#8216;you&#8217;re there for them in this time of grief&#8217;.</p>
<p>If a person is remembered even after his/her death (good memories of course), that goes to show that he/she has made an impact in the life of that person. And if one&#8217;s death will serve as a constant reminder for you to be your best, live life to the fullest, I&#8217;m sure the very person will be honored to have been an inspiration too <img src='http://scrumptious.animeblogger.net/wp-content/plugins/smilies-themer/pau/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: hazy</title>
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		<dc:creator>hazy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 10:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Death is a simple yet complicated thing. Like what otou-san said, I don&#039;t think it makes you an insensitive person if you can&#039;t identify with others going through the grief of mourning. Even if it&#039;s someone you weren&#039;t that close to, I think people still feel some sense of loss and sadness over his/her passing.  I&#039;ve lost a couple of my loved ones before, and it&#039;s something that you can&#039;t easily cope with even if you know that&#039;s what you need to do. It takes a lot of time and a lot of effort to try and move forward. Even if I&#039;ve experienced the loss, I still never know what to say or how to act when I get a &quot;someone died&quot; news too. It somehow makes me feel uncomfortable and awkward to say words of condolences, and I just end up staying silent or mumbling &quot;I&#039;m sorry&quot; or if I&#039;m very close to that person, I simply give them a hug because I just can&#039;t express the sadness and sympathy I feel into words. Most of the time, I believe that actions speak louder than words... I remember when I lost my mom, when people gave me hug or even just held my hand or gave me gentle pats in the back at that time, I felt their sadness and their support for us too.

People also have a different way of dealing with losing someone -- some just cry while some can&#039;t, some hold onto stuff while some learn how to let go, etc. Like you mentioned, a good example for this are Balsa from SnM and the characters from Cross Game. It also somehow reminds me of Dumbledore&#039;s words regarding death in the HP series. As long as someone remembers a person who passed away and their life even just once in a while, or acknowledges their existence and passing, I think it&#039;s a way of honoring their memory too.

I think I babbled too much... I hope what I said made some sense. :roll:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Death is a simple yet complicated thing. Like what otou-san said, I don&#8217;t think it makes you an insensitive person if you can&#8217;t identify with others going through the grief of mourning. Even if it&#8217;s someone you weren&#8217;t that close to, I think people still feel some sense of loss and sadness over his/her passing.  I&#8217;ve lost a couple of my loved ones before, and it&#8217;s something that you can&#8217;t easily cope with even if you know that&#8217;s what you need to do. It takes a lot of time and a lot of effort to try and move forward. Even if I&#8217;ve experienced the loss, I still never know what to say or how to act when I get a &#8220;someone died&#8221; news too. It somehow makes me feel uncomfortable and awkward to say words of condolences, and I just end up staying silent or mumbling &#8220;I&#8217;m sorry&#8221; or if I&#8217;m very close to that person, I simply give them a hug because I just can&#8217;t express the sadness and sympathy I feel into words. Most of the time, I believe that actions speak louder than words&#8230; I remember when I lost my mom, when people gave me hug or even just held my hand or gave me gentle pats in the back at that time, I felt their sadness and their support for us too.</p>
<p>People also have a different way of dealing with losing someone &#8212; some just cry while some can&#8217;t, some hold onto stuff while some learn how to let go, etc. Like you mentioned, a good example for this are Balsa from SnM and the characters from Cross Game. It also somehow reminds me of Dumbledore&#8217;s words regarding death in the HP series. As long as someone remembers a person who passed away and their life even just once in a while, or acknowledges their existence and passing, I think it&#8217;s a way of honoring their memory too.</p>
<p>I think I babbled too much&#8230; I hope what I said made some sense. <img src='http://scrumptious.animeblogger.net/wp-content/plugins/smilies-themer/pau/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Marigold Ran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marigold Ran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 01:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Silence is the best mourning for death.

At the least, it&#039;s the most tactful.</description>
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<p>At the least, it&#8217;s the most tactful.</p>
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		<title>By: Kitsune</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kitsune</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 18:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it is a difficult issue, one that I faced often during my volunteering...

Unless you know someone personally, it is natural not to feel deep mourning over passing of your officemate&#039;s father. As you mention, it is not necessary to lie with words such as &quot;deeply saddened&quot;, but you can let your officemate know how you feel. &quot;She’s grieving over her dad, it’s a tough time for her, she must be in pain… is what I know&quot; - you can tell that to her :)

What to do? Turn grief into growth! 

Find Support
Talk to your friends and maybe a counselor/psychologist about it. Read a book on grief that can help you grow.

Accept Your Grief
Time alone does not heal grief. Deal with it, think about it, accept it.

Express It
Without expression grief can leave you frozen and stoic. Find someone who can listen to you and allow you to express all of your feelings.

Accept Your Feelings
Grief has many feelings; some of them are very intense. Accept them and they will help you learn about yourself and the meaning of your loss. Lock them up inside you and you will lock away parts of yourself.

Pace Yourself
Grief takes energy. You may tire easily. A slower pace alternated with periods of diversions and mild exercise will maximize healing. Good nutrition also helps.

Have Hope
Faith is not the absence of fear, but the willingness to go on when fear is present. Healing will come eventually.

I would like to mention two Japanese videos related to the subject. 

&quot;In the award-winning documentary &lt;a href=&quot;http://celestialkitsune.wordpress.com/2009/07/22/children-full-of-life/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Children Full of Life&lt;/a&gt;, a fourth-grade class in a primary school in Kanazawa, northwest of Tokyo, learn lessons about compassion from their homeroom teacher, Toshiro Kanamori&quot; 

&quot;Dreams&quot; by Akira Kurosawa. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRcuBRMA2sU&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Village of the Water Mills&lt;/a&gt;. &quot;At the end of the sequence (and the film), a funeral procession for an old woman takes place in the village, which instead of mourning, the people celebrate joyfully as the proper end to a good life. This segment was filmed at the Daio Wasabi farm in the Nagano Prefecture. The film ends with a haunting yet melancholic melody from the excerpts of &quot;In the Village&quot; , part of the Caucasian Sketches, Suite No. 1&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it is a difficult issue, one that I faced often during my volunteering&#8230;</p>
<p>Unless you know someone personally, it is natural not to feel deep mourning over passing of your officemate&#8217;s father. As you mention, it is not necessary to lie with words such as &#8220;deeply saddened&#8221;, but you can let your officemate know how you feel. &#8220;She’s grieving over her dad, it’s a tough time for her, she must be in pain… is what I know&#8221; &#8211; you can tell that to her <img src='http://scrumptious.animeblogger.net/wp-content/plugins/smilies-themer/pau/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>What to do? Turn grief into growth! </p>
<p>Find Support<br />
Talk to your friends and maybe a counselor/psychologist about it. Read a book on grief that can help you grow.</p>
<p>Accept Your Grief<br />
Time alone does not heal grief. Deal with it, think about it, accept it.</p>
<p>Express It<br />
Without expression grief can leave you frozen and stoic. Find someone who can listen to you and allow you to express all of your feelings.</p>
<p>Accept Your Feelings<br />
Grief has many feelings; some of them are very intense. Accept them and they will help you learn about yourself and the meaning of your loss. Lock them up inside you and you will lock away parts of yourself.</p>
<p>Pace Yourself<br />
Grief takes energy. You may tire easily. A slower pace alternated with periods of diversions and mild exercise will maximize healing. Good nutrition also helps.</p>
<p>Have Hope<br />
Faith is not the absence of fear, but the willingness to go on when fear is present. Healing will come eventually.</p>
<p>I would like to mention two Japanese videos related to the subject. </p>
<p>&#8220;In the award-winning documentary <a href="http://celestialkitsune.wordpress.com/2009/07/22/children-full-of-life/" rel="nofollow">Children Full of Life</a>, a fourth-grade class in a primary school in Kanazawa, northwest of Tokyo, learn lessons about compassion from their homeroom teacher, Toshiro Kanamori&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;Dreams&#8221; by Akira Kurosawa. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRcuBRMA2sU" rel="nofollow">Village of the Water Mills</a>. &#8220;At the end of the sequence (and the film), a funeral procession for an old woman takes place in the village, which instead of mourning, the people celebrate joyfully as the proper end to a good life. This segment was filmed at the Daio Wasabi farm in the Nagano Prefecture. The film ends with a haunting yet melancholic melody from the excerpts of &#8220;In the Village&#8221; , part of the Caucasian Sketches, Suite No. 1&#8243;</p>
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		<title>By: usagijen</title>
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		<dc:creator>usagijen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 18:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@otou-san: Thank you for thy insightful comment, quite a pat on the back for me too :) And I realize I&#039;ve been dumping all this RL dorama sh*t onto the blog as of late... MUST REMEDY IN THE NEXT POST! I&#039;ve got to stop talking about Tokyo Magnitude 8.0 first, need a break @_@

As for Mirai...
[spoiler]
Could we say that she&#039;s in denial if she &#039;unconsciously forgot&#039; what happened that time with Yuuki? The sudden spark of flashback in episode 9 made her recall what exactly happened, it seems, the first step to acceptance...
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@Baka-Raptor: kicking ass even after I die?! SIGN ME UP!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@otou-san: Thank you for thy insightful comment, quite a pat on the back for me too <img src='http://scrumptious.animeblogger.net/wp-content/plugins/smilies-themer/pau/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> And I realize I&#8217;ve been dumping all this RL dorama sh*t onto the blog as of late&#8230; MUST REMEDY IN THE NEXT POST! I&#8217;ve got to stop talking about Tokyo Magnitude 8.0 first, need a break @_@</p>
<p>As for Mirai&#8230;<br />
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<p>Could we say that she&#8217;s in denial if she &#8216;unconsciously forgot&#8217; what happened that time with Yuuki? The sudden spark of flashback in episode 9 made her recall what exactly happened, it seems, the first step to acceptance&#8230;</p>
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<p>@Baka-Raptor: kicking ass even after I die?! SIGN ME UP!</p>
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		<title>By: Baka-Raptor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baka-Raptor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 16:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look on the bright side: once you die, you get to become &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=spirit&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;an evil spirit that haunts children&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look on the bright side: once you die, you get to become <a href="http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=spirit" rel="nofollow">an evil spirit that haunts children</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: otou-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>otou-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 16:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow this is heavy stuff. Are you sure this is an anime blog?

I have to say — It doesn&#039;t make you an insensitive person because you can&#039;t identify with someone who&#039;s going through that. On the contrary: the fact that you&#039;re even thinking about it (and writing blog posts about it) puts you a step up from most, who&#039;ll offer empty words with the best intentions but avoid actually pointing their brains at the subject, which is a hard one to think about. And obviously you&#039;ve progressed beyond the funeral incident, even if the guilt and embarrassment of such a thing sticks with you a long time. Oh well, it was probably not the best thing to say/do at the time, but that&#039;s how we grow — we learn from those mistakes, and it seems like you&#039;ve done that.

In a more general answer to your overall question, I think everyone deals in a different way. There&#039;s those different steps of the grieving process that psychologists talk about (denial, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance), but it&#039;s different for everyone. Some people focus on different aspects than others. For instance, in my opinion:

[spoiler]Mirai is spending an &lt;em&gt;awful&lt;/em&gt; lot of time in the &quot;denial&quot; phase.[/spoiler]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow this is heavy stuff. Are you sure this is an anime blog?</p>
<p>I have to say — It doesn&#8217;t make you an insensitive person because you can&#8217;t identify with someone who&#8217;s going through that. On the contrary: the fact that you&#8217;re even thinking about it (and writing blog posts about it) puts you a step up from most, who&#8217;ll offer empty words with the best intentions but avoid actually pointing their brains at the subject, which is a hard one to think about. And obviously you&#8217;ve progressed beyond the funeral incident, even if the guilt and embarrassment of such a thing sticks with you a long time. Oh well, it was probably not the best thing to say/do at the time, but that&#8217;s how we grow — we learn from those mistakes, and it seems like you&#8217;ve done that.</p>
<p>In a more general answer to your overall question, I think everyone deals in a different way. There&#8217;s those different steps of the grieving process that psychologists talk about (denial, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance), but it&#8217;s different for everyone. Some people focus on different aspects than others. For instance, in my opinion:</p>
<p><a href="javascript:void(null);" onclick="s_toggleDisplay(document.getElementById('SID728472324'), this, 'Show &#9660;', 'Hide &#9650;');">Show &#9660;</a></p>
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Mirai is spending an <em>awful</em> lot of time in the &#8220;denial&#8221; phase.
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